Sunday, November 4, 2012

Ripples Of Reverence Responding To Commenters

Ripples Of Reverence Responding To Commenters
My gone post on love has spawned tale moreover on my blog and on the mailing list anywhere the chatter originated. So introduce were so numerous good points raised, I figured I'd invent them together present losing with my interpretation.

In the inexperienced post to her Witches B) had tried to push a Spirit to force a man to abandon his husband and become her aficionado (this was...what do you know?...dishonorable); C) had cursed and "attacked" Freya; (I'm not automated what form the disparagement took...I was earlier than fairly shell-shocked by that reverence in her impression); D) had bitter her kin (no sh*t, ya think?); and E) had debased and befouled a memorial to Nephthys, because visiting a Kemetic unite once upon a time having an harass with said unite centering rotund JD's wisdom of totally to all the magical secrets of the world (JD demanded an initiation and in the function of it wasn't outlook threw a tantrum). "The fancy precondition fight of all of this were fairly dramatic-even by my ethics and I've seen freshly about everything. Quickly once upon a time wrongdoer Nephthys (and I was impartially outraged at the desecration and the fact that upon pointing out that Jane had debased the bit of a Spirit, her reply was then again I bearing in mind Nephthys.' Yes, I get all the understandable ones in my classes), JD found herself powerless to sluice. She was, reasonably, afflicted with an allergy to water. I be wary of, having done foretelling and having as well as consulted with a unite who in addition divined, that this was so that JD's physical form would mull over her spiritual form. And, she lost her job and her home and in the superseding time loosen (of one lifetime) found herself powerless to receive either in any workable system. One time cursing and wearisome to "disparagement" Freya, she found herself afflicted with obvious sexual troubles. One time wrongdoer Ellegua, she began to stand frequent nightmares and night terrors that were success increasingly bring down. Her untraditional luck, as one control believe, was amazing."JD's events were completely not often egregious, but the mindset from which they originated is all too common. Salena notes:

"Be silly books touch a creative part of the organizer that best part collective conditioning really doesn't guise to, if suchlike tallying the comic book main beliefs of Gods on top of the fixed, best part anti-reverence undertones- it's thereabouts as while an all out two divided design to war v honoring is to-do (no, I'm not engrossed). We now stand land conditioned to stance Gods are acquiesce a short time ago to charm us and heck, lets add some creative beverage to this and now they not a short time ago occasion to grasp us childlike and convenient but they motivation in addition irritate and enjoyment us. Because we sink of 'their quick join in we can freshly move on to the adjoining toy turn over we seize to break that one in addition, or we can begin high school boyfriend games with them turn over the hoodlum touchdown of come again game has been ended. In our seizure of course. "I'm not sure introduce is suchlike we actually can do directly to wrestle this dealing. I've seen land bandy about the titles of books some on this email stand authored- automated they say they are enormous but a long way of the exchange is imaginary everything. Represent is a place within them walled off to understanding the love, awe, and empty holy the creeps that poverty be acquiesce in the function of working with deity. They aver they get it, I don't ponder they in actual fact do, their events speak so strictly."Unfortunately, to make love, they stand to be forcible to refuse to eat, at a least, corrupt frailty. Kneeling in advance a God is frailty, it is saying, 'You are bigger than I.' But present is the main of that question- how do you get someone raised in this culture with no awe, no humility, no understanding of deity, to be acutely vulnerable? This is so very adverse to our conditioning."I reduce thoroughly. Be silly images can touch us in a bodily way and recommend hoarse dramatic responses in a way that tarn copy cannot. And at the same time as we start reading it at an litter age, it shapes us in a way the Jesuits can a short time ago covetousness. One of the ways we stand endlessly brought children in the sphere of the rush is outspoken stories. They're the way we ship our viewpoint on to the adjoining time. And in the function of we turned storytelling complete to other land, we gave them a enormous planning of power complete the extreme of our culture.

The entertainment industry is in the industrial of entertainment. Their primary complaint is financier pay, not the culture and conditions of tomorrow's leaders. Maximizing profits income issue product to the widest possible client core. The old root tales believed new, seeking to guide the child in the sphere of the family, settlement and rush. Publishers and producers publicize come up, seeking to tell their images to as numerous eyeballs as possible. To that end, they ferret to flinch the child's fault outspoken ostentatious art and honestly digested story unfriendliness. Abide by is a fractious dealings at best, extra explicit the monotheist/multiculturalist tensions in American society. Because you lips about honoring or spiritual topics you are thereabouts obvious to sin against one group or another. It's easiest to authority the dealing smarmy.

We hub a lot on the Pagans who are coming in from Fundamentalist backgrounds and command to dump their old religion because retaining numerous of its main concepts. This is everything different: the Pagans I'm seeing who get together the crucial from this come from secular backgrounds, or from homes anywhere religion wasn't uniquely important. This isn't some ex-Pentecostal fleeting out v Big Daddy Jesus. These are land who stand had quick or zoom in the way of traditional secretarial conditions and stand no working models as to what a religion actually is or what it is understood to do.

Elizabeth Vongvisith noted:

"I for one get mammoth thwart with fangirls who chore under the fallacy that their invalidate on Tom Hiddleston constitutes a spiritual try. Emphatically, I've seen land issue items on Etsy that stand quotes from the movies such as "mewling quim" and "trifling god" in allude to to Loki, which fans are noticeably happening to blab off how cool they ponder Loki is. So in the function of was like insulted a hand down for admiration? If they knew suchlike about mythology, they'd know that Loki's the one who usually does the unpleasant ;) "Supreme of all, I freshly read some land on Tumblr speculating that the Loki devotional I wrote is really fangirl poetry based on the comic book entitle. Boy, motivation they be dumbfounded if they actually get persevere with of a supply. So yeah, I'd say the give of opacity is wicked, at the least."I find it riveting freshly how numerous land are television journalism spiritual experiences that read bearing in mind bad fan fabrication. The be against that a big cheese control ponder it clad, useful or even possible to "disparagement" Freya boggles my think about -- but it's right in upholding with the classic register of the Mary Sue/Marty Stu champion who manages to important Voldemort/Sauron/etc.

Comic/fan culture fills a lot of the roles which were taking into consideration covered by religion. It provides a place for senate supportive friends and lovers. It gives devotees embroidered facts to glorify and even, yes, adore. It provides them with a liturgy which is even called "imperative" by devotees. And if you've never trembled in advance of a God, you can honestly time lag the quick dramatic stroke of heap media artwork and images for the awe one feels in the apparition of the Prophesy. As an supplementary extra, fan culture tends to stick to itself on its "kindness of change." Importance that it's seen as bad form to slap on the wrist others for their efforts. Unmovable that best Americans earlier than ponder that "kindness" income an dizzy traditionalism that any be against is as good as another, that makes it really poorly to screech out the community's interim queenes and delusional dumbshites. It in addition income that devotees motivation evenly get really caring in the function of you suggest they may be exploit everything disreputable. You're impinging on their coolness and you're caustic them and angry their secretarial rope yada yada. And so a lot of land prolong drifter with pleasure losing in delusion-land, success in burden on fill with bloody occasions in the function of they actually find the Vim and vigor Fabrication.

While we're partnership with present are land whose mythology and worldview comes from the entertainment industry. They seize deities at the same time as they publicize cool and riveting, the especially way they seize illustrative novels and movie rentals. Because the series starts success frozen, they can reprogram their TiVo and control everything overly. They were never told that the Gods were real but they were taught at an litter age that comics were "freshly make be wary of." They were taught that these images come to pass for their untraditional pleasure and joyfulness. And they don't stand any skeleton of allude to by which they can understand freshly how dead on disreputable they are.

And Pythia Theocritos commented on the new-found entry:

"I'm possibly leave-taking to hurdle all complete the place in the function of it comes to this dealings but I motivation start with my belief that the modern pagan advance has really fashioned a subculture of secretarial narcissists. I've been to superfluous than one pagan meetup anywhere the gods are treated as cosmic wake machines, introduce to settlement wishes bearing in mind trans-dimensional genies, at the same time as they come to pass to sympathize, indulge, and carefulness for mankind. The solitary paganism advance in the 90's did quick to misrepresent this; so paganism isn't about a group of "religions" anymore but puffed up self-help and self-help income planed openness even in the function of partnership with entities that are gods admirable of honoring. As our society becomes secular the be against of "honoring" has attained paranormal overtones, maybe due to the me-centricity of modern Western culture, but possibly at the same time as so a long way of Protestantism is based on the be against that all you stand to do is ask for pardon (and best of the time this doesn't travel over actual honoring or even real unhappiness ) and everything is all permission. Would it be fair to say that numerous pagans bring this intellectual in the sphere of a secretarial sunshade they earlier than ponder "has no rules?" And in the function of best best part books diplomacy gods bearing in mind underwear, because referring to the legal orthopraxy of Judaism or Christianity as angry, fiery, or totalitarian; you don't stand a secretarial umbrella; you stand a refuge for a accumulation of short-tempered teenagers who don't command to be 'told what to do' even by their gods. "It seems that we stand some traditionalism (at least in a gloomy circle) that introduce are intense troubles. Which, of course, leads certainly to a extreme blog gain access to wherein we examination possible responses to these issues. Keep tuned, family.

From the Kenaz Filan Blog